I listed them as new with defects for the following reason. Bought these and pulled them up to the knee in one foot and realized these were not the right shade for me. So they were not all the way tried on. They were expensive so I was pretty disappointed. I bought these because they are good for Edema or swelling of the legs and feet. They are more of a medical thing than a fashion thing. Also known for relieving symptoms of veins. More thick than fashion tights made to be tight to prevent inflammation. Size medium see chart in photos. The color is called nude.